Originally by: Carai an'Caldazar

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If I lose it to the first HIC pilot that points me, I have no business flying the ship in the first place. Large Energy Neutralizers, Drones/Fighters, and hopefully some support should clear out the HIC's with points on me quick enough. This is status quo whether your flying a standard capital ship or a super capital ship.

Even as it is, my Chimera/Phoenix are deployed in capital ship fleets with support... Why would I behave any differently in a Supercarrier?

Or is the ranting from solo-Supercarrier pilots?

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Originally by: Carai an'Caldazar

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Edited by: Carai an''Caldazar on 12/11/2009 19:20:59

Originally by: Sarah Norbulk

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Edited by: Sarah Norbulk on 12/11/2009 19:06:06

Originally by: Carai an'Caldazar

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If I lose it to the first HIC pilot that points me, I have no business flying the ship in the first place. Large Energy Neutralizers, Drones/Fighters, and hopefully some support should clear out the HIC's with points on me quick enough. This is status quo whether your flying a standard capital ship or a super capital ship.

Even as it is, my Chimera/Phoenix are deployed in capital ship fleets with support... Why would I behave any differently in a Supercarrier?

Or is the ranting from solo-Supercarrier pilots?

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If you want more DPS than a dread your gonna have to sacrifice all your highs for DCUs. That's rights. Neuts, smartbombs, RR can't be fit if you actually want to be effective. If you do fit utility slots your better off flying a dread. It's a lose/lose. There is no reason to fly this ship over a carrier or dread now.

Edit: typo

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Numbers are incorect. Assuming Nozh is correct, 2x Dreadnought damage with DCU's for non Nyx, 3x Dreadnought damage on Nyx.

Without DCU's, should still be higher by about 50% over a seiged dreadnought.

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Originally by: Ranger 1

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Edited by: Ranger 1 on 12/11/2009 19:53:24

Originally by: Sarah Norbulk

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Originally by: Carai an'Caldazar

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Originally by: Sarah Norbulk

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Edited by: Sarah Norbulk on 12/11/2009 19:06:06

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I'm not arguing at all, but I have to ask this.

Considering the new price point, the hit point buffer available, and the dynamics of how the fighter/bomber damage works, why would you not leverage the extra damage potential of a DCU fit and rely heavily on carriers for logistics support?

Maximizing a more flexible and effective damage delivery system, and taking advantage of its huge buffer doesn't seem to be a stupid tactical decision... especially as they are far cheaper if lost and they would presumably make up a larger percentage of your fleet (at that price point)than we see currently.

Again, just asking (because its easy to only think in terms of tactics that work/don't work currently as opposed to what "would" work under revised circumstances).

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The main issue comes down to a) is it worth 3-4 times the price of a dread (or 6-8 times the cost of a carrier) and not be dockable. That's 9b isk for a parking alt and effectively $15 dollars a month(even if it is payed for by isk) for a ship that may be marginally better than a dread.

Originally by: Ranger 1

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Edited by: Ranger 1 on 12/11/2009 20:39:59
Thanks for the reply, and that is an understandable point of view. At the very least if this change comes through then the ability to dock (or have a docking ring on an Outpost) should be implemented at the same time.

The monetary hit to current Mothership owners is an issue too of course. Perhaps if they gave each current owner a half dozen by way of compensation.

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